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		<title>Come As You Are</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Don’t you know that sinners are the only kinds of men that Jesus can love?”  William Still, a Scottish pastor, once asked this question to a young student who, though pretending to ‘have it together,’ was really quite a mess &#8230; <a href="http://www.dukecru.com/2010/08/28/come-as-you-are/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Don’t you know that sinners are the only kinds of men that Jesus can love?”  William Still, a Scottish pastor, once asked this question to a young student who, though pretending to ‘have it together,’ was really quite a mess inside.</p>
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<p>At the beginning of a new school year, Still’s question is an appropriate one for us here at Duke.  After all, we are a bit of a mess inside, too, aren’t we?  Yet, as we meet so many new people this time of year, the natural tendency is to put our best foot forward and hope to conceal our brokenness and pettiness from them.  Maybe, we think, if I can just show them my best qualities, and hide my blemishes, we can all be great friends.  Maybe then I’ll be accepted.</p>
<p>But when we come around Jesus and those who love him, we have to throw all such pretense out the door.  Within the context of a community that loves and worships Christ, we can and must be real with each other.   Because as we read the pages of Scripture, it becomes clear that Jesus, rather than looking for the ‘together, ’the ‘polished’ or the perfect, is seeking to befriend and love the unlovely, the wretched and the flawed.  He’s not looking for people with something to offer, but rather calling morally bankrupt, disobedient, broken people to accept <em>his offer</em> to follow him.  Indeed, it seems that the main people who invite his wrath are those who claim to have it together or seek to conceal their rebellion and brokenness.</p>
<p>So as you come to Cru this fall, please know that we want you to <em>come as you are</em>. There are no prerequisites, no qualifying tests, no entrance exams.  Cru exists to help students experience Christ, and the only thing that qualifies anyone for Christ is this—that she be a great sinner, a ‘mess inside.’  For centuries on end, when those kinds of people have come to Christ, they’ve found in Him a deeper love and acceptance than they could have every dreamed.  We pray that you’ll find the same in Him this year at Duke and in Cru.</p>
<p>Blessings,</p>
<p>Cole</p>
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		<title>Questions on the Bible and Science</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Three questions (and they may be composites) were relayed to me, and each is worthy of considerable discussion.  I will do my best to respond, but I want to emphasize, as I did in my talk, that these issues are &#8230; <a href="http://www.dukecru.com/2010/02/05/questions-on-the-bible-and-science/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p>Three  questions (and they may be  composites) were relayed to me, and each is  worthy of considerable discussion.   I will do my best to respond, but I  want to emphasize, as I did in my  talk, that these issues are <em>not</em> fundamentals of the Christian  faith.  There is ample room for  disagreement.  The point here  is simply to show the existence of  credible explanations that respect  both the authority of Scripture and  sound scientific evidence. — Dr.  Constance K. Walker</p>
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<p><strong>1.  What do  you think about the discussion that God created the earth with  age?   How does this picture fit into what you discussed on Thursday?</strong></p>
<p>There was no  time in my talk to mention  the other common views held by Christians  with regard to the age of  the earth (or with regard to creation and  evolution).  The question  above refers to one of those alternative  views.  It favors a literal  reading of Genesis chapter 1, but it  postulates that when God created  the earth some thousands of years ago,  he created it so that it looks  old—billions of years old.  Unlike the  simplest “young earth”  view, this position respects mainstream science,  though in an odd way.   It says that science is telling us what <em>would</em> have happened if  God had taken the long, slow route.</p>
<p>If someone  could convince me that  I had to take the Hebrew word for “day,” <em>yom</em>,  in Genesis  1 to mean a literal 24-hour period, then this is probably  the view I  would adopt, because the scientific evidence for an old  earth is pretty  solid.  However, since I see <em>yom</em> used in other  ways in Scripture  and, in particular, used to denote in indefinite  period of time, and  since the mechanistic details of the creation  process were not pertinent  to the main purpose of the narrative  (pointing to God’s power, majesty,  and sovereignty over the universe), I  do not see the need to interpret <em> yom</em> so narrowly.  One can,  but one need not.</p>
<p>What bothers  me about a young earth  created “mature” (created to look old) is that  it seems inconsistent  with God’s character.  I don’t believe that God  deliberately  misleads us.  There are things that he may choose not to  reveal  to us, but he doesn’t deceive us.  “God is not a man that he   should lie” (Numbers 23:19, ESV), and deception is a form of lying.    Nor is there any obvious reason for him to make a young earth look old.</p>
<p><strong>2. Do  you think the case made  against evolution is often overstated?  How  so?  Conversely,  how do the changes that have occurred in the theory of  evolution affect  its validity?</strong></p>
<p>The case  against evolution and the  case for it are probably both put forward  with unwarranted certainty.   Those who oppose macro-evolution as a  significant explanation for the  varied life forms tend to ignore  evidence in its favor, just as those  who favor evolution as the sole  explanation tend to ignore the holes  and problems in the evidence  supporting it.  We need a little balance  in this discussion.</p>
<p>We know that  small-scale evolution  played a role in the development of the different  life forms, and it  is likely that larger-scale evolution also played a  significant role,  but, as I said in my talk, it is not yet clear how  much of a role.   Nor is it clear whether or not God intervened directly  and “supernaturally”  at one or more points.  A likely point for direct  intervention  might be the development of the first living organism,  and there may  be others.</p>
<p>I’m not sure  what changes in the  theory of evolution are referred to in the  question.  Science is  always changing (“evolving!”) and refining its  explanations.   That’s how it progresses.  The science of genetics has  provided  many new tools and new clues for unraveling the mystery of how  our physical  bodies and those of the animals came into being, so  adjustments in the  theory of evolution are appropriate.</p>
<p>In this  debate over human origins,  we, again, don’t want to lose sight of the  main purpose of the Biblical  text.  God created all of life, in its  varied and intricate forms,  but Genesis chapter 2 emphasizes God’s  personal and special relationship  to humanity.  We have had his Spirit  breathed into us; we are spiritual  beings, and that side of our nature  is outside the reach of science.   The theory of evolution involves only  the origin of our physical bodies.</p>
<p><strong>3.  How does the  “great flood” reconcile with fossil finding and  naturalism?   How might the flood validate a “young” earth?</strong></p>
<p>The flood  described in Genesis chapters  6-8 is another example of a mysterious  event recorded in the Bible for  which we lack definitive explanations.   Here again, opinions are  divided, even among evangelical scholars, and  let me say at the outset  that I am certainly not an expert on this  issue.  Was the flood  global or regional?  When did it happen?  How did  it happen?   The best answer to all of these questions is that we don’t  know, but  theories abound.  The way one answers these questions and  the way  one reconciles the Biblical account with the fossil evidence  and the  philosophy of naturalism will depend on one’s predispositions.    Fortunately, the answers do not affect the main purpose of the text:   to show God as the moral, righteous judge of all humanity.</p>
<p>Christians  who believe that the earth  is young will tend to insist that Noah’s  flood was global, recent  (obviously), and, because it is global,  supernatural.  The claim  has been made that the fossils found in  sedimentary rock formations  were not deposited over long geologic ages  and do not contain evidence  of evolution but represent different layers  of sedimentation occurring  during the flood.  This supports their  young-earth perspective.   Such an explanation of the fossil record has  now been largely discarded  by mainstream geologists, though a small,  devoted group continues to  carry out “creation research.”  Naturalists,  of course, would  reject anything supernatural.</p>
<p>Christians  who accept the mainstream  science view of an old earth typically accept  the fossil record in the  conventional way and suggest that the flood  covered a vast region, but  not necessarily the entire globe.  It was a  catastrophic event  that certainly wiped out the population of the  portion of our planet  that was the stage for the human story recounted  in the earlier chapters  of Genesis.  This would constitute “the earth”  for the Bible’s  human authors and the original recipients of its  message.  As I  said in my talk, the Bible is written in the everyday  language of its  time, not in precise, technical language.  A date for  the flood  would depend on how the age information in the early chapters  of Genesis  are interpreted, and, here again, opinions differ.  While  there <em> may</em> be a “natural” explanation for the flood (the abrupt  filling  of the Mediterranean basin when the Straits of Gibraltar first  opened?),  this would not remove God’s hand from the story.  He timed  the  flood carefully and warned Noah, his “herald of righteous” (2 Peter   2:5), to prepare for it.  He was in control!</p>
<p>Explanations  of the great flood are  an issue that has, regrettably, divided  Christians and drawn the focus  away from the main point of the biblical  text.  In chapter 1 of  Genesis, Scripture points to God’s sovereign  majesty as the Creator  of the universe; in chapter 2, it shows us  something of his personal  nature and of his special, close relationship  to mankind; then in chapters  6 through 8, we see God as the moral  judge of mankind.  As one  commentary puts it, “We should be careful to  read the account whole-heartedly  in its own terms, which depict a <em>total</em> judgment on the ungodly  world already set before us in Genesis. . . .  The whole living scene  is blotted out, and the New Testament makes us  learn from it the greater  judgment that awaits not only our entire  globe but the universe itself  (2 Peter 3:5-7).” [Derek Kidner, <em>Genesis;  An Introduction and Commentary</em>,  London, Tyndale Press, 1967, p.  95].  This is somber business that  we dare not dismiss, but one that  naturalists are anxious to avoid.</p>
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		<title>Questions about Homosexuality</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to Bill Henson of FOTOS Ministries for coming to visit Cru last week. He gave us much to think about with reference to the relationship b/t the church and the LGBT community.  Here are his answers to several of the questions you &#8230; <a href="http://www.dukecru.com/2010/02/01/questions-about-homosexuality/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Bill Henson of FOTOS  Ministries for coming to visit Cru last week. He gave us much to think about with reference to the relationship b/t  the church and the LGBT community.  Here are his answers to several of the questions you posed.  If you’d like to hear more from Bill or have a  follow up question, please visit his website at <a href="http://www.fishontheotherside.org/" target="_blank">www.fishontheotherside.org</a> or email him at <a href="mailto:bjhenson@gmail.com">bjhenson@gmail.com</a>.</p>
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<strong>Question:</strong> How do we approach family/friends who aren’t  Christian but are LGBT? How do we love but not condone?</p>
<p><strong>Answer:</strong> For those LGBT persons who are not  Christian, it is important for us to remember that they lack one or more  of the following: (i) the spiritual power of Christ’s presence inside  their hearts; (ii) the spiritual knowledge of Christ’s pursuit of them;  (iii) internal conviction of their sins and their personal need for  salvation; and/or (iv) trust in those who actively witness in Christ’s  name. This last factor is nearly always present.</p>
<p>For this reason, I do not find confrontational evangelism to be  effective. You may feel differently. If so, you need to ask yourself  this question: do I use a confrontational approach with ALL  non-Christians or only LGBT people? This approach often comes across as  self-righteous and pushes LGBT friends away from Christ.</p>
<p>I recommend that we encounter non-Christian LGBT folks wherever they  are on their “prodigal” journey. I would rather nurture whatever faith  does exist, rather than tear down the faith they do have. This means  that I often have to surrender <em>verbalizing</em> much of my spiritual  concern for them. This NEVER means surrendering my concern: it simply  means investing such concern in fasting, prayer, and radical friendship  (serving, loving).</p>
<p>Recognizing that others’ spiritual path to Christ often takes place  over a journey, we must build authentic relationships that can last over  the long run. Non-Christian LGBT folks need the faithfulness of  long-term Christian friends who refuse to moralize them or make urgent  demands that are impossible for them to carry out. In other words, we  need to stop searching for “approaches” and simply dwell with those who  need Jesus.</p>
<p>Most LGBT friends and family already experience tremendous  “targeting” of their homosexuality by religious people. They feel  judged, excluded, moralized and even hated. They have encountered  self-righteousness and hypocrisy in evangelicals. In other words, they  have little trust in us. They believe that our offer of friendship will  soon turn into a religious agenda. Thus, there is no trust. That means  there is NO meaningful relationship…</p>
<p>Proving, over the long run, that we are “for” them maximizes the  chances for a deeper intimacy in which spiritual matters can be  discussed. To head in that direction, I believe we should first humbly  live out our Christian faith for ourselves. Second, extend invitations  into our faith community where the Gospel is effectively presented.  Third, never turn the Gospel into a religious agenda. Fourth, invite  them to dine with us in our homes. Fifth, be prepared to give “your  answer” for the faith that you have: that is, be prepared to offer a  witness of Christ <em>in words</em> that has been won because of the  trust you’ve sincerely built into your relationships.</p>
<p>Nothing about this “love” approach ever condones sin. We give  ourselves way too much credit for having the power to condone sin in  LGBT people. The factors that drive them toward same-sex desire and  action upon such desire run very deep within their psyche. You cannot  love too much.</p>
<p>There are many examples that we could look at, but one of the most  common questions I get is something along these lines: <em>should I  include my gay friend’s partner in dinner invitations? I feel like doing  so might validate their relationship</em>. My three immediate thoughts  are as follows: (1) as stated above, we are too presumptive about our  power to validate relationships that already exist; (2) the driver  behind many of our hesitations seems to be fear, which necessarily  interferes with our ability to be an authentic friend; and (3) isn’t it  likely that our gay friend’s partner also needs Jesus? Isn’t it likely  that he too has encountered much judgment and exclusion?</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong> Do you think homosexuality is ever a  choice?</p>
<p><strong>Answer:</strong> I hesitate before answering this question  for one reason: the answer is multi-faceted in a world that demands a  single answer. I know people who are engaged in same-sex sexual activity  that originates more out of addiction or pornography, rather than  homosexual orientation. I know many others who act on same-sex desire  principally out of the wounds of sexual abuse, rather than homosexual  orientation. For women, some engage in same-sex sexual activity due to  emotional codependency – not homosexual orientation. I have identified  about 15 types of homosexuality: some do not originate from homosexual  orientation, and some involve NO sexual activity at all. My point:  sexual and gender identity are quite varied and complex.</p>
<p>Putting that aside, let’s take the most common case: those who are  exclusively or principally gay or lesbian. Studies in the early 1980’s –  using very small and non-random samples – showed high concordance rates  in identical twin pairs. That is, they showed a very high rate of both  identical twins being gay. That led to the pop culture idea of a gay  gene. Today, we now have large and random samples (Australian Identical  Twin Pair Study, for example). The concordance rate has dropped  dramatically from 85-100% down to roughly 35%. This indicates genetics  play a “predisposing” but not a “predetermining” role in homosexual  orientation.</p>
<p>That said, we have to say that genetics could play a role in sexual  orientation. Further, other prenatal biochemical factors could play a  role as well. Doing studies on the flow of hormones and chemicals in the  womb throughout an entire pregnancy will be nearly impossible to ever  achieve (at least in meaningful sample sizes). I think it is safe to say  that such factors do likely play a “predisposing” role in homosexual  orientation. There are other inputs as well: sexual abuse, a physically  or verbally abusive parent, an absent parent or less serious but still  critically important issues like trouble assimilating with or relating  to same-gender peers. These environmental factors also likely play a  role in sexual and gender identity.</p>
<p>To those who demand that the answer be either nature or nurture,  researchers on both sides of this issue (including gay researchers)  describe homosexual orientation as originating in a confluence of both  prenatal and environmental factors. There is widespread agreement that  there is no gay gene.</p>
<p>So, is homosexuality ever a choice? Yes. But in most cases, I do not  believe so (due to BOTH prenatal and environmental inputs).</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong> Fornication is a deep sexual sin as well.  Do you think the Church looks at (or should look at) sex before marriage  through a multi-dimensional lens?</p>
<p><strong>Answer:</strong> Let me clarify a possible misunderstanding: I  did not intend to convey that we should view “sin” through a  multi-dimensional lens as if we can come to multiple conclusions that  fornication is both sin and non-sin. That would be illogical and  unbiblical. Rather, I suggested that we must see human beings (yes,  sinful ones) through a multi-dimensional lens: particularly those we  tend to reduce to an unbiblical one-dimensional characteristic or label.  We have done that to LGBT people for a long time.</p>
<p>The question is this: could this apply to other sinners (such as  fornicators)? I believe it could. If we ever fail to see the factors  that drive others to sin – if all we ever do is label them immoral – we  are missing the opportunity to be helpful. To become helpful, we must  see sinners (not their sin) through a multi-dimensional lens.</p>
<p>A theoretical example: Tessa is a fornicator. She has sex 2-8 times a  day and gets paid for it. We often refer to her as a one-dimensional  label: prostitute. This disposition (or lens) rarely invites us to  actually care for Tessa, much less do something redemptive to reach her.  Alternatively, we (or those NOT tempted by her) can care enough to dig  into the various dimensions of her life. When we do, we find she was  raped by her father. He beat her and kicked her out of the house when  she was 14. She hiked across the Midwest to New York City. Desperate and  hopeless, Tessa fell prey to dark forces that led her into false  attempts to find value and identity (not to mention survival). On the  side, Tessa is now a top online porn star that men throughout the world  view. Such men vacillate between worshipping her and condemning her.  They laud her but they certainly do not care anything about her – or  else they would not use her body for their own sexual release.  Particularly Christians…</p>
<p>A real-life example: Amy graduated from my high school. I was over at  her home with a group of boys when one of them pulled down his pants  and placed his private part on top of her head. She was a beautiful  girl, but her self-esteem was deeply broken. That day, we all laughed as  this boy effectively communicated to her that she is good for nothing  but sex. At my 20<sup>th</sup> high school reunion, I saw Amy and she  looked so genuinely beautiful. I introduced her to Kang and we both gave  her a hug. Then, during the announcements, it became clear that Amy is  an internationally known porn star. The entire room erupted in laughter  as the former class president of our high school effectively outed her.  She is so broken that she found the attention appealing. I guess if  you’re a porn star, you thrive on others knowing where to look you up.  When Kang and I returned home, we looked up Amy’s “non-pornographic”  profile website. I will never forget what her profile said: “My  grandfather used to always look at me sexually. He said I was ugly and  that I’d never amount to anything. I want to say thanks to all of you  who watch me: you prove him wrong every day.”</p>
<p>I do not think the church looks at or should look at sex before (or  outside of) marriage through a multi-dimensional lens. Sin is sin. Nor  do I believe that Christians should engage in pre-marital or  extra-marital sex. There are, however, factors that lead many to do so.  While still teaching clearly about sexual immorality, we should be  redemptive in helping others avoid such sin. To be redemptive, however,  we may have to walk with those who continue to commit such sins. To do  that, the very Gospel work that is needed in their lives will require us  to gain a multi-dimensional lens to view them by: especially those we  single out; those who sin in ways we do not; those who are as broken and  lost as my dear high school friend, Amy. I see her NOT as a porn star:  rather, I see her as the woman at the well whom Jesus loved. I believe  with my whole heart that Jesus will one day reach Amy. I pray for that.  And when we see Amy, we will engage her in that redemptive hope without  pointing out her life of sin. She needs a Savior; not a Pharisee.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong> A common view I have heard – on behalf of  Christians who think gay relationships are okay – is that everyone  deserves to love someone. How do we respond to this?</p>
<p><strong>Answer:</strong> Thank you for your thoughtful question. I  hear this view regularly. I am sympathetic to the heartfelt compassion  behind this idea given that I personally know how painful and difficult  it was to surrender my own sexuality (and a partner I dearly loved) to  Christ in 1995. Compassion is needed because we often think that LGBT  people just need to stop “sinful behavior.” What we miss is that  surrendering their sexuality is not just about sex: it is about an  entire romantic drive that encompasses how one loves and receives love.</p>
<p>In regards to my own story, I could NEVER surrender my partner and  gay identity to Jesus just because the church asked me to. I could NEVER  do it just to satisfy the religious demands of other Christians. I did  it ONLY because I personally encountered the Living Christ. I did it  ONLY in response to the invading power of God’s Holy Spirit into my  soul. In the very moment when I “let go” of my sexuality, I can only say  this: God deeply filled my entire being with the most amazing peace and  joy that I have ever experienced in my life. What does this say? It  says to me that Jesus Christ is enough. He is enough to satisfy all our  unmet needs.</p>
<p>Beyond my own story, I invite folks to consider the plight of the 130  million orphans in our world. Kang (my wife) and I have intimately  invested our lives into the lives of orphans in Siberia, China, Nepal,  Kenya and particularly Haiti. We see the same story everywhere: intense  suffering. Despite the best attempts of mission activity by the church,  tens of millions of orphans struggle to survive. All of them struggle  with the inner pain of being abandoned. The drive to want a family – or  food – is similar to the drive for sex. All are considered natural  needs. Yet many orphans live an entire life in the midst of these needs  going unmet.</p>
<p>Does the orphan deserve a mother and father? Does he deserve food?  Does she deserve protection against the elements? YES. Yet do many  realize such deliverance? NO. They somehow learn to live surrendered to  their circumstances under the mysterious glory of God’s sovereignty; a  sovereignty that promises to make all things wonderful in heaven; a  sovereignty that recognizes that we all will suffer in this broken world  until then.</p>
<p>Amazingly, I am struck by how much JOY and PEACE there is in the  hearts of the orphans of our world. I have met orphans who have NO  choice but to dwell in their unmet needs. I have heard stories of how  Jesus supernaturally sends them “manna” from Heaven. That manna is not  always food for a hungry belly. Sometimes it is simply an awareness of  His presence; a presence that melts away the pain of hunger; a presence  that produces unthinkable peace and joy; a presence that brings to life  Jesus’ amazing love. Mysteriously, they get a taste of the blessings of  the life to come and that taste is enough to get them through their  suffering today.</p>
<p>They are innocent: there is nothing immoral about being hungry or  thirsty or longing for a father. They are innocent: and they must wait  in their hunger and abandonment. With the drive for sex, we too easily  cross the line of immorality. These drives are not so innocent. If the  orphan must wait, those of us who wrestle with unmet sexual desires must  also wait. Yet like the orphan, Christ can supernaturally comfort us  and melt our unmet needs if we will seek Him with our whole heart. The  more desperate we are, the more likely we are to find that He is enough  to satisfy all our unmet needs. This goes for us all. The LGBT person is  not alone in this.</p>
<p>Finally, we must reclaim the beauty of true Christian community. We  have an opportunity to establish a foundation of safety within the  church upon which unmet sexual and relational needs can be nurtured  through deep spiritual community. This will require acceptance and  safety. Acceptance is not approval: acceptance is simply a sincere  realization of the inherent worth of human beings no matter what gender  or sexual orientation they have and a compassion for how difficult it  must be for one to forever give up expressing desires that involve  romance, love and sex. We can work in concert with the Spirit of Christ  to be a healing balm toward all who live with unmet needs: the orphan,  the widow, the single person, and yes – the LGBT person as well.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong> Why do you think homosexuality became so  detested by society, as opposed to any other sin listed in the Bible?</p>
<p><strong>Answer:</strong> I have pondered this question for years. I  do not have a definitive answer, but I do have two ideas. First,  heterosexual desire is recognized (by most, at least) as God’s intention  through creation, history and biological design of male and female. Any  kind of sexual activity beyond male and female is viewed not only as  immoral: it has historically been viewed as unnatural (perversion). No  wonder many cultures throughout time had severe punishments for same-sex  sexual activity (regardless of whether it involved romance/love – or  not). I am NOT promoting punishment: this is a mere historical fact.  Second, throughout the Old Testament, God helps Israel defeat armies by  earthly means. Yet in the case of Sodom and Gomorrah, God does not use  an earthly army: he sends holy fire from heaven to destroy these cities  because of their immorality. In light of this, I wonder if this set in  motion some deep inner sensitivity about the dangers of homosexual  sexual activity. This is not intended to elicit a debate about why God  destroyed these cities. The questioner simply asked: why all the focus  on this particular sin? I am simply postulating what I have considered  over the years. I would encourage Christians NOT to rest too easily on  these ideas for Ezekiel 16:47 challenges us: “Sodom’s sins were pride,  gluttony, and laziness, while the poor and needy suffered outside her  door.” If that were the standard for God to send holy fire from heaven,  we in our day should fear not for the LGBT community but for our own  sins.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong> When someone wrestling with same-sex  attraction surrenders their sexuality: do they become more attracted to  the opposite sex or remain attracted to the same sex? What does that  journey look like? In your own struggle, how were you able to escape the  temptations of same sex attraction and instead pursue a healthy  relationship with your wife? You said you still had some same sex  desires but that you gave that up to God. So, does that mean God was  asking you to change who you were, how He made you?</p>
<p><strong>Answer:</strong> I make it clear every time I speak that I  have not experienced a full release from same-sex attraction. In some  seasons, I experience a surprising degree of freedom. In other seasons,  same-sex attraction is quite strong. People coming out of homosexuality  report a wide range of outcomes. Women report greater degrees of freedom  from same-sex desire over the long-term. This is likely because women  experience sex “more” through emotions, while men experience it “more”  through physical release. Some men experience long periods of freedom  from same-sex attraction. Most men do, however, report that material  levels of same-sex attraction resurface over time. If that is the case,  then what difference has Christ made?</p>
<p>In my case, I always believed that the attractions defined me as  “gay” and that my options were to either live a lonely life or find a  boyfriend. I lived my teens and early twenties desiring romance, love  and sexual expression with a man. Ultimately, I experienced a committed,  long-term relationship. Yet when I surrendered my life to Jesus, HE  came to live in my heart. I experienced a mental, emotional and  spiritual release from “gay identity.” God entered my soul and this  “release” occurred instantly. I still deal with desire (strong at  times), but I no longer feel an identity attached to the desires. I no  longer feel I can ever act on such desires.</p>
<p>The journey looks different for everyone. Here is what it could look  like. First, such a person must dive deep into Jesus Christ. If <em>anyone</em> is going to “lose their life in order to gain life,” we all need to be  prepared to DIVE DEEP into the presence of Christ. This is where our  unmet needs will be nourished. Second, regular mentorship and  accountability is needed. Third, involvement in a holistic recovery  program that does NOT target homosexuality is recommended (one such  program called Celebrate Recovery is widely available throughout the  United States). Fourth, journaling about your life story before God will  open doors to insights you will need for the journey ahead. Fifth, move  forward into God’s will. You should not sit around waiting to be  healed. You should go on a mission trip or otherwise express your gifts,  talents and purpose in the Kingdom of God. We are not seeking  perfection: we are seeking God’s will. You will never be perfect, but  you may find deeper healing by being fully immersed into the purposes of  God in the church. Sixth, commitment to fellowship and community is  imperative. Deep emotional needs – as well as needs for non-sexual  physical intimacy – can only be met in community. Seventh, do NOT make  getting married your goal. Instead, a surrendered life is what you want  to aim for. As you can see, these steps are helpful to ALL people who  give their lives to Christ.</p>
<p>Kang and I shared our full life stories with each other in only our  second week of knowing one another. We were not interested in dating  each other: we were simply in the same young singles group where we all  shared our testimonies. All this is to say: there was no hiding of my  past from her or anyone in my church. I was given the opportunity to  disclose my life to those who cared most intimately for me. That was a  healing force in my life. By the time Kang and I began dating, we knew  everything about each other. We entered the relationship with eyes wide  open. We had the freedom to break it off if things did not work out. No  one in our small group was pressuring us to marry. We were given the  freedom to go slow. In our case, by the time we started dating, we were  deeply in love. We did not date to date: we dated to marry. I discovered  that a deep emotional and spiritual love can produce sexual desire.  That is what happened in our case. We know similar couples where there  is not much sexual desire or sexual activity. But just to let you in on a  little secret: we know MANY heterosexual couples where sexual activity  has slowed down over the years for a variety of reasons. For women,  having children can change their desires significantly. For men, they  can sink into unhealthy trends where they masturbate instead of bringing  their sexual energy into the marriage. All marriages will face their  challenges.</p>
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<p>Thank you for  submitting  your questions about the trustworthiness of the Bible!  This  week  we chose just one question, but it is a very interesting one that  requires  a longer response.  Hope this generates some good  conversation,  especially for those of you taking the New Testament  class right now.</p>
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<p><strong>In my New Testament  class we’ve learned that  John 7:53-8:11 (the story of the adulterous  woman) and Mark 16:9-20  (the long ending of Mark) were not in the original  versions of these  two gospels.  Is this true?  If so, doesn’t  this call into question the  reliability of the New Testament as we have  it today? </strong></p>
<p>This is a great question!   It <em>does</em> seem  likely that these pericopes were <em>not</em> part  of John and Mark  originally.  In fact, if you turn to these passages  in your own modern  Bible, you will see a textual note saying something  like, “The earliest  manuscripts do not include these verses”.    Two things seem to make  this a rather disturbing issue, at least initially,  for some Christian  readers.  First, these are fairly large chunks  of text.  John 7:53ff  and Mark 16:9ff are not cases where a scribe  has simply added a word or  two, but rather instances of scribal insertions  nearly large enough to  constitute an entire chapter of a gospel.   Secondly, these insertions  have managed to make their way into the text  of the English copies of  the New Testament that we read today, lending  to the perception that  they should be considered authentic.</p>
<p>So what happened?   How did these stories end up in  the gospels if they were not originally  included by the authors?  For  the sake of time we’ll only talk  in detail here about the John passage,  but if you want to look further  at the Mark passage, check out Bruce  Metzger’s The Text of the  New  Testament (pp. 322-327).</p>
<p>First off, it is important  to note that the story of  the adulterous woman is absent from all early  Greek manuscripts of  John.  It does not appear in any Greek manuscript  until 5<sup>th</sup> century.  Once it does make its way into the  manuscripts, scribes are  always writing in the margins about their uncertainty.   In addition to  this, no church father prior to the fourth century mentions  the story,  and those who wrote commentaries on John did not include  this passage  in their commentaries.  Simply put, the evidence is  strong that the  story didn’t appear in early copies of John (and thus,  probably was not  in the original).  When it does begin to appear,  it doesn’t always  show up at the same place.  Some times it comes  after John 7:52, other  times after 7:44 or 7:36.  Some manuscripts  include it at the end of  John, and others even include the story in  Luke.  It is clear, indeed,  that scribes were not quite sure what  to do with this story.</p>
<p>Because the story has a  ring of authenticity and  presents a similar picture of Jesus to that  which is found throughout  the four gospels, it seems likely that this  is a historically reliable  piece of Jesus tradition that circulated  in the early church.  With all  that Jesus did during his time on  earth (cf. John 21:25), we should  not be surprised or disturbed by the  fact that there appear to have  been lots of true stories circulating  about him that didn’t get  included in Matthew, Mark, Luke or John.   Rather than discouraging us,  the existence of such stories should give  confidence to Christians, b/c  it provides corroborative evidence for  the character of Jesus as we  see him in the canonical writings.</p>
<p>Still, the question comes  to mind—if John 7:53-8:11  was probably not in John’s original text,  why is it in the Bible  today?  Well, since the passage has been  included in copies of John for  many centuries now, publishing a Bible  without this pericope would be  less profitable and more controversial  than the alternative.  In other  words, some people simply wouldn’t  buy a Bible that didn’t include this  famous old story.  Even  among scholars, there are differing opinions  on whether the pericope  is authentic (though the majority opinion among  both evangelicals and  critics is that is it not), but especially among  lay people less familiar  with textual criticism, excising such a well  known text would likely  be quite unpopular!</p>
<p>In conclusion, we needn’t  be disturbed by the fact  that this apparently non-Johannine pericope  is included in many  manuscripts of John’s Gospel.  Indeed, it  is precisely because there is  so much evidence that it wasn’t part  of the original text that we can  be confident that we know what the  original text actually said!  The  manuscript evidence for the New  Testament dwarfs all other documents of  antiquity, making it easy for  us identify John 7:53-8:11 as a variant.  Further, the size of this passage,  though perhaps surprising to the  uninitiated, should not cause alarm.   Outside of Mark 16:9ff, there are  no other insertions of anywhere near  this size.  Finally, the presence  of these pericopes in some manuscripts  does not threaten our  understanding of the nature of Scripture.   When we speak of the  authority, infallibility or inerrancy of the Bible,  we are speaking not  of scribal additions, but of the original ‘autographs’  penned by the  authors.  At the end of the day, the study of text-critical  issues like  this should not shake the Bible student’s faith in the  reliability of  our sacred text, but should instead result in a more  thoughtful,  nuanced confidence in the Scriptures than she had before.</p>
<p>Blessings,</p>
<p>Cole<br />
P.S.  If you are interested in hearing a more comprehensive response to  some of the text critical issues raised by Dr. Bart Ehrman, I would  highly recommend the following review of Ehrman’s Misquoting Jesus by Dr.  Michael Kruger.  Dr. Kruger is the academic dean at Reformed Theological  Seminary and specializes in the field of Gospel Origins.  Kruger is an  expert on text critical issues, but has quite a different perspective  from Ehrman.  Here’s a link to Kruger’s review:</p>
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